Orig. The large guard is nickel This tang stamp was used by Camillus from 1946 to 1950. The design features for this knife came about through various inputs from servicemembers, survivability researchers, and training developers. Its total length is 292mm (11 5/8 inches). Look at these two knives in the photo below. The cutting blade is to be 5 1/8 inches long and 3/16 inches thick. Eventually the U.S. Navy adopted the knife after failures on the Mark 1 and renamed it the U.S. Navy Mark 2. Buying via the links on CutsandCarves could earn us a commission on the sale. the knife is a Camillus model number 5733. Another part of the group has The handle should fold out to cover the entire blade edge. Some of the best knives that we know today either came before any of the World Wars or were made because of one or both of those wars. During the war, they produced over 17 million knives of various type and spec for the military, more than any other knife maker. by jerryd6818 Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:06 am, Return to Camillus Cutlery Collector's Forum, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. The same is true for family businesses that have been selling knives for generations as they tend to have such literature lying around. S-4007 hand marked on the blade, Guardless and serrated Why? You can jump to the following sections if youre in a hurry, but I would advise that you dont skip this part. Well Camillus didn't start making these knives with this marking until 1974 so That sold this great knife with blade, hilt and butt blued. Knife. 5679 L36: WW II Army Air Corps knife. Im not a fan of social media and dont use it. This registration, granted in 1980, is for use of paranitrophenol as a fungicide incorporated into leather for military use, at a concentration not to exceed 0.7% on the basis of dry finished leather weight. Not sure about the pommel stamping. (Author's note: Camillus had developed the Mark II during World War II, and made more Mark II's than anyone else, though the Marines still called the Camillus-designed Mark II knife "the Ka-Bar.") The New-and-Improved Camillus M3 In the 1980s, the U.S. Armed Forces discussed improving the M3. I had suspected that was the case but did not have any evidence. The way that Camillus 5733 knives are marked can give us a general idea of when the knife was made. metal tip protectors. blade and solid spun rivets for the military. Listed here we will discuss a few items that I cant glean a date of manufacture from the stamp. If you dont go to knife shows, you might also have some luck with veteran knife collectors in your locale. touched them in anyway, as you see them is how they were in the showroom. By 1876, after his uncles company had to close shop due to poor sales figures, Adolph charted out a new path for himself. hunting knife. This is the factory reference One Side of the blade should have the Camillus Knife brand and the identification should have the blade number. Today, heres all you need to know about dating your ka-bar knife as effectively as possible. In New York City. The current edition of this document is Aerospace Standard SAE-AS-8662. Did your Camillus knife go to the war? Many GIs bought these knives and carried them during the war in Vietnam, including my father, who bought on in the exchange in Takhli, Thailand, and wore it during missions over North Vietnam. The bit telltale difference is the sharpened false and special units so many time we almost gave up the argument on the subject. There won't be any pommel markings on this one. Required fields are marked *. Some of the knives have no branch of service marking on them. Skip, I'm not sure that we can or can not label either of those knives as genuine Mark 1's. together at the same time. I assume was the same for my brethren in the fixed wing as well. Keen Kutter etched in blade and tang marked Sharpleigh / The serrated spine on this knife is part of the functional requirements for this knife. Stagged Rosewood, CR guard Theyre not like the other vintage war knives Ive dated because theyre not fighting knives. You mentioned the Ontario KNife Company briefly in the article. Camillus 1996 Combination Folding Knife USN $24.99 1 bid $5.60 shipping 3d 14h Vintage Camillus New York USA Santa Fe Stoneworks Premium Folding Pocket Knife $84.99 Was: $99.99 or Best Offer SPONSORED Vintage 4 Blade CAMILLUS 1981 USA Military Survival Pocket Knife - SKU 1617 However, it was still adequate for survival situations and therefore remained in the Federal Supply System. with their design. The original contracts (August '59) for the JPK called for a 6" blade with threaded pommel attachment. Hoping to try and date them but I am finding conflicting information. Before you can regard them as a collectors item, though, you need to know that you are working with the, Read More How to Tell How Old a Barlow Knife Is by Yourself (Charts, Stamps, and More)Continue, I have written different guides on how to date different knives to a specific era but this one is different. With the help steel domed rivets. The Camillus knives went to the war (WWI & WWII), was handcrafted for some presidents, and lived more than 100 years before the company shut down. Not an easy knife to resharpen and the very tip was prone to breaking off. Today, its time to date the Cattaraugus knife to a specific era and see what beauty you have, Read More How to Date a Cattaraugus Knife (5 Methods Explained)Continue, I have written different guides on how to date different knives to a specific era but this one is different. Consequently, the knife blade being reduced from six inches to five inches allowed it to retain some of the qualities necessary to carry out survival tasks, but small enough that it could be easily stowed on an aircrewmans vest without causing interference for aircrews trying to carry out their duties while flying. I was in Boy Scouts. My name is Steve and i live in Australia..I have recently started collecting knives from the Vietnam era..I just purchased 1 on ebay but the more i try to confirm the sellers claim the more i become frustrated and confusedplease help me. Camillus Cutlery Company won the contract and made the first production run on Jan. 27, 1943. that when Camillus got the bid for the Jet Pilot Knife Marbles made a deal The sheath welt shall be 3/8-inch-thick and 2 inches in length. Enjoy and See you on the trail! Only the same "Camillus N.Y." markings, either on the normally found pile or reverse side of the blade, or stamped on the Name side or front of the knife. Hi. If the knife does not have the leather handle, it is most likely a knock off produced for the civilian market. Knife #1 and #2 were never found in the factory collection years ago, this Thus, when the Ka-bar knife company was changing hands, it was also getting different stamps and logos. As such, finding a definitive history of the development and procurement of this knife is difficult to reconstruct. Very creative, one of the nicer sites I have seen today. and took them with me when the auction was over. The tang stamp on this knife is post Government contract era. I am trying to find any information on a 7 inch U.S. Camillus. The M3 knife consists of 3 pressed steel parts: The blade, the hilt and the pommel washer. Camillus produced the Jet Pilot Survival Knife with a 5-inch blade from 1961-2006. But this is Ontario. Mine is an old C make still kept in my truck. The Leather washers may have been replaced with the black ones. Sent to the Jeffersonville Quartermaster, it is essentially a 6 They all now have similar appearances, a conformity if you will. After all, that is what they practically do for a living. As with many uses of military equipment, service members use considerable ingenuity in the field when employing their equipment and therefore, the use of the holes in the blade guard for cordage lashing points may have been a field expedient use of the knife rather than as an intentionally designed purpose. this one, it should be a fantastic story to be uncovered one day. http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/295814-5-inch-hunting-and-sheath-knives/?hl=%2Bpilots+%2Bknife&do=findComment&comment=2377348, http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/111421-odd-camillus-usn-mark-1/?hl=%2Bpilots+%2Bknife&do=findComment&comment=830644, http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/200448-questions-on-a-bright-blade-camillus-mark-1/. There was a metal guard that fit over the end of the blade when the folding machete was closed. Im interested in finding out about what I believe is not a USAF Pilot Survival Knife, but may in fact be an Asian made imitation. I know how well "Orvet" makes customs. The pilots, survival, sheathed, hunting knife shall consist of a metal blade with a leather grip, riveted butt plate, guard, guard and end plates, leather sheath with a pocket for containing the sharpening stone, nylon laces, and a metal sheath protector to prevent the tip of the knife from penetrating the bottom or underside of the sheath. The knives will be sold as a group only. What is interesting is the knife is called an Air force pilot survival knife. I was wondering if you had run across anything about the dates on the pommel nut. The others that I've seen have the later arched tang stamp. edge. The But your saying the WW2 knives dont have pins at all?, just peened? The one on the left there is a bevel at the top of the grip. Thus, the current standards, methods, and procedures were not necessarily applicable to the procurement process that brought this knife into existence. Boy Scout Knife, Camillus Manufacturer, Whittler's Knife, used, blades in great condition but shank shows wear (CSE06) Please refer to the pictures for condition grading. Since Camillus is highlighted here, the bright blades were the initial production knives. Price $15,000.00, #5665 L66: This is the prototype for the WW II Army Air Anything you can tell me about its history? Several contractors were essentially exempt from the treatment requirements because they were already applying some standard applications of bluing or Parkerizing, PAL Blade Co. for example. This design was accepted, and the military specifications documents were updated to reflect Marbles concept in MIL-K-8662A (04 November 1957). Both have black plastic pommel. Unknown Hunting Knife: Kent was a trade name used by F W It is currently still in inventory with the DoD through the GSA. The sharpened clip point on the blade allows the pilot to punch a hole in the aluminum then use the knife spine as a hasty saw to cut through the aircraft skin during an aircraft egress situation. As the development and testing process began to take shape, updates to the original specification documents were published. However, there is not enough information in the literature to determine with certainty the purpose of the holes. Need help identifying camillus knife Riley12 Apr 16, 2014 Riley12 Guide Joined Jun 27, 2013 Messages 1,053 Likes 263 Location Florida Apr 16, 2014 #1 I bought this knife today, and was told it's a naval survival knife, because of the blue in the bottom, but it doesn't look like the naval survival knives. Additionally, the jet age in military aviation increased the number of gear pilots and aircrews had to carry on their flights. I'll leave it at this, there is some conjecture out there on what these knives might or might not be. About as plain as you can get, this is a prototype paring The bolt end of the handle is unmarked. Most of the information that I have collected about the knife comes from blogs and knife forums on the internet. They are hard to find. Our fellow member Frank Trzaska wrote about these knives most recently, I think, in his February 2014 article in Knife World entitled "The USAAC 5" Hunting Knife". It was enlightening to discover that there is very little information available on the background and origins of this knife. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. The topic got side tracked here a little bit with the USAAC hunting knives, those with the fuller blade. The rarest USMC knife in This is usually where I first look at when dating knives. Camillus produced the Jet Pilot Survival Knife with a 5-inch blade from 1961-2006. They is a lot more ingredients to the batch of pudding for these knives. Do you have any information on this kind of knife ever being produced? Folding Knives from Camillus Cutlery Folding Knives Handle Color Black Select from a variety of quality Camillus and Western folding knife styles and folding knives that include liner locks, lock backs and frame locks. In the early 2000s, the U.S. Army published requirements to private industry for an aviation survival knife to replace the aging Air Force Survival Knife. In 1962, the knife was modified by reducing the blade to 5" in length. If it comes with a sheath, there wont be a factory embossed stamp on it. The first Ka-bar knife was manufactured by the Tidioute Cutlery Company (in Pennsylvania) which came into play in 1897. Thanks for sharing. Must have forgotten to take it out when I updated the piece with the second bullet point, Your email address will not be published. There are a lot more than that, but the table above is a great place to start. Thanks for your response. Contact the Ontario Knife Company. S-5382 Half guard prototype with scaler back and 3 small 5665 J86: Prototype dated 3/25/1942 made for the Army While somewhat similar the fullered blade knives are a distinct model and are most often associated with the USAAF, not the Navy. I have three of these babies from my flying days with the U. S. Navy. RdksTreasures. Made after march 1985 to 2006. has the Mark 2 pommel not the M3 version. A second fungicidal product was registered in 1967. the M3 pommel and guard to improve their knife and help conserve parts. Just found my dads Camillus NY made knife and wanted your opinion about whether to send it to Ontario or whoever for refurbishment or just leave it the way it is. Marbles taught Camillus how to do it. I've seen and/or handled eight bright finished examples besides the one I own and your pictures are the first examples of the parkerized ones. Your email address will not be published. Im assuming its ok to to refurbish if for no other reason than to halt any deterioration on the blade or otherwise but Ill admit Im not a knife collector or adventurer so this would be more about preserving value than repairing it for use. The earliest Camillus factory experimental 6 inch Jet Pilot US Military utility multi tool knife, no lanyard. Thus, this knife became obsolete for its original intended use when the majority of military aircraft incorporated composite materials. There are many variables to take into consideration and a general genealogy of dating can be made with Mark 1 knives. It was common for everything in a survival vest to have a lanyard. You are using an out of date browser. There were of course Marines stationed on the base. 5684 S50: Dated 8/21/1945 this design uses the Mark 2 blade, I hope this is the right place to make this post.sorry if not. Co., Olean N.Y.Straight lineNilFrom 1909Union Cut. 5684 L77A: Camillus tried to talk Naval Ordnance into using I, too, have one that has a small Japan stamped on the blade at the hilt. A knife for sale on Frank Trzaska's site shows a sheath with the same care instructions stamped into it, with the knife keeper in a different location. The Air Force Survival Knife will be around for a very long time. Meet The Camillus Pro Staff Survivalists, Hunters, Military and more Camillus Design Partners Knives, machetes and tools designed by the best in the business Social Photos #camillus Acme United Corporation 1 Waterview Drive, Suite 200, Shelton, CT 06484 There was a spin off copy cat comp. I have a one of the knives that came out of a survival kit. Camillus wanted to send the knife with a hack saw blade attached to . PS If you buy the knife today, the seller might include a newer sheath just to promote better knife safety for you. As a result, the Ontario Knife Company developed a prototype based on the 1957 design that was first submitted by Marble. Adolph Kastor, the founder of the Camillus cutlery company, came to the U.S.A at the age of 14. I have never heard it being issued in the Navy but can say without a doubt many all of us flight crew members were issued one. "S" Cards and drawings, dates, etc, associated with these knives For some reason or other I always thought the bright, lack of USN, Camillus blades were a late production, or post war variation. Camillus Factory still shot courtesy of Tom Williams showing Your email address will not be published. I became curious about the background and history of this knife about a year ago. Beyond that I do not know if they were swapped out. The USMC solicited bids from several knife While some are very rare, such as the L-76, L-77, "Bushman" and USMC parachutist knives, several examples are more ubiquitous. head pommel. the Above JPK and the Marbles in the 1953 to 1957 time frame. After all, we can also use the form of the knife to estimate what era it came in. Your email address will not be published. Before you go dating your ka-bar knife, I think you might want to know some of the challenges that you could encounter, and why. Camillus 5 inches Jet Pilot's Survival knife on top of Camillus 6 inches Jet Pilot's Survival knife 1971 marked Camillus 5 inches Jet Pilot Survival knife complete with scabbard. small file transitional Camillus WW2 pilots knife.jpg. by orvet Thu May 30, 2013 2:01 pm, Post 2023 Cuts & Carves - Designed by O. 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For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Any The knifes performance was dependent on the users knowledge and skills. Also it is not cut to put on a belt. Each manufacturer would like to put its spin on things. 43 knives in total, all from the showroom. While that might make it harder to identify what a true Ka-bar knife is, though, it is a blessing in disguise sometimes. Follow these steps to date the Ka-bar knife this way: Look around the knife for markings on the body. In most of the places that Ive come across a Klein knife, it was either a military electricians knife or for another handyman. So both of mine in the first post are wartime? For a knife that has been around for more than 120 years now, you also know that it would have changed hands a lot of times. Otherwise, have someone who does. It looks exactly like the survival knife from the air force. apart. The other contractors made the Mark 1 in their own convenient way but conform to the basic guidelines which were granted approval. This blog was how do you say it? Most folks don't know Mine has a blued blade and crossguard. Im working on making one of these for a friend who is currently at the Air Force Academy and this article was incredibly helpful, thank you! The original parkerization is worn a bit and it has been sharpened, and there was some paint that mostly has chipped off. Not Adopted, Case and Catt got the Q knife Not looking to sell it. factory reference collection. Ive read reviews that claim the new ones (from Ontario) are not as good. He was a family friend! The M3 trench knife or M3 fighting knife was an American military combat knife first issued in March 1943. Era" knife. Wouldn't mind running across one of these to compare to my two examples. 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However, it was particularly designed for use by forces in need of a close combat knife, such as Airborne Units and Army Rangers, so these units received priority for the M3 at the start of . I know my knives - maybe not as well as my mother - but enough to write helpful guides for you. Model number 5686. I have a Valor #998 Japan Jet Pilot Knife utilized in Vietnam given to my uncle, who gave it to me. I not sure where I got it but I undoubtedly purchased it at a local sporting goods or general store such as Gibsons Discount in the late 60s or early 70s. Okay, maybe not fakes. In August '61, a 5" blade was specified. I appreciate the vote of confidence . S-3647 A prototype that was to have a 10 MM screw compass Both have leather grips. Additionally, OKC is the only company selling this knife commercially. Did you recently find a Camillus knife, and youd like to know what era it came from? Later, when we received individual survival and flotation gear, the knife scabbard was sometimes sewn into the pocket where a .38 special was stored during Vietnam days on the survival vest. Interesting information. The latest dated pommel stamped Camillus 5733 is 3-1985. Among the "bright" finished knives you will find a variance. If you have a collector around, check with them to see if they had kept such catalogs. Most would say no to such a deed. It would also be much easier to confirm additional details about the knives, not just who made them and when. See Picture for identification. In this early production from the spring of 1943 through to the middle of 1944 is where you'll find all the variables or variations with in the Mark 1 knives. The knives illustrated in Post #5 could had been fabricated in that transitional phase, or part of sample packs for the Navy salt spray tests, but just a theory. If you are interested in the Camillus M4 Both marked CAMILLUS over N.Y. but the one on the left the font is larger. FYI, in case your interested, the Government specification sheath for this knife is still available. - Knives That Make the Cut, Why this Air Force blade is a workhorse of military survival knives | AI WAR NEWS, Why this Air Force blade is a workhorse of military survival knives Armed Forces Connect, Ontario Knife Company 499 Air Force Survival Knife (Review) 2022 Veteran Headlines, The 12 Most Common Items in A Survival Kit, Top 10 U.S. Military Gear For Backpackers. That doesn't make it right, it just makes it how they were found from poor We inspected them and put them into survival gear for CH-46, CH-53,and cobras. Thanks for filling in the blanks. With a decline in the number of such people, it becomes more challenging to get original information on what a ka-bar knife is, and when it made the market. In the testing Western won the contract The original design of this 5" blade is, I believe, a pre-war Marbles design which was known as the "Ideal", a #45. It is possible that the knife may have been purchased commercially and not issued through the supply chain. Enjoy! From the picture you can see that the length of the hilts are different. 1200 dozen made in This does not impact the price of the item youre buying and it supports me to keep creating the content that you love. The condition of the leather sheath is what would one would expect to be from late 1960s to early 1970s vintage as it was found at the time, which has not degraded since. Bruce Mergele, QMC, USNR-Retired. This knife was popular during the second world war and I will assume that so are the people who knew a lot about it. Otherwise, the serial number might not be able to do so much for you. Now, we know already that this, Read More How to Tell If A 1918 Trench Knife Is Real (5+ Unique Methods)Continue. The knife has been in continuous service with the Department of Defense for over sixty years. I have the knife and sheath, but not the sharpener. You also have to consider that contracts were negotiated for 5-inch hunting knives prior to the release and approval of the drawings for the Mark 1. Can't recall seeing. It was in a jungle behind Officers housing on a Navy base, sealed inside an ammo can with some other items. But there are clever reproductions that can fool you into thinking its the real thing. knife with Rosewood plain grips and brass pins. My friend and I were just talking about this specific subject, she actually is normally attempting to prove me completely wrong! We have many investment grade pieces available. Force survival kit knife. So Ive read that one way to tell a WW2 Kabar is the pommel will be pinned from both sides as well as peened. For the next 27 years it was in my Squad car or on my SWAT belt. While some other companies have taken over the design and started to make modern versions, there is simply nothing like the older units that first came out under the original Klaas company. This knife fits in with Kent Sportsman's knife with stagged Rosewood grips and steel dome pins. Finally, the knives I had would not hold a decent edge but may have had a sufficient edge in a land survival situation. flat sided pommel to be used for hammering prior to the adoption of the hex No date or manufacturer is stamped anywhere. Late 1944 production through till contracts were completed or cancelled in 1945, you find those knives more alike or much more similar characteristics. Its blade is double-edged and has a length of 170mm (6 11/16 inches). by MITCH RAPP Mon May 27, 2013 5:42 pm, Post One interesting thing about the sheath is it doesnt have the pocket for the stone. Thanks for the info major. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Try any of the methods above to identify the ka-bar knife you have, and provide a very good estimate of the date when it launched also. The former refers to the knife being a normal US army fighting knife, while the latter identifies the Ka-bar knives issued to the US Navy. Some shady knife enthusiasts might want to get the knife from you at a steal price or in a swap deal for something else. 5665: Early 12/29/1939 prototype of the new Camillus design Knives made by top companies were featured in catalogs that were either internally maintained or sent out to dealers and collectors. If the blade measures 6 inches and it is an original, then it may have been manufactured before 1961. I like that, but cannot figure out what type of knife that may be. I would love to see a picture of the knife. The sharpening stone also has no marks as they were probably worn off from use. The design was not adopted. There is a mix of lower and uppercase letters; Short and curved false edge (as opposed to the long sweeping false edge of the WWII knife), Scabbards are marked with Eagle, Globe and Anchor. I just bought this knife from Ontario Knife Company. Some had been made before the time, and they dont have the exact specs as above. However, Barlows have been around for much longer than that and should be considered a bigger collectors item. The reason behind Marble selling their knife to the general public was due, in part, to pre-maturely manufacturing several thousand knife blades and parts in advance of learning who would be awarded the government contract to supply the knives to the military. Hi Bruce: In June of '60, the contract was changed to requiring a peened pommel (as was used on all later production). This is what Camillus was thinking about at the end of the war, For all that good, though, some bad actors have learned how to make fake Camillus knives and pass them off as vintage. Both marked CAMILLUS over N.Y. but the one on the left the font is larger. We have over 75,000 pieces of Boy and Girl Scout Memorabilia to sell. A Kent marked with Indian Trail and large brass rivets, J-9 marked is another Kent prototype with domed steel The shady ones might lie about the real timeline of your knife so that they can under-price it and steal it from you. They are back again and better then ever. 1960's-76 Camillus New York Wooden handle US military style 2 blade electricians folding pocket knife-3 3/4'hunting. Is it a genuine vintage or merely a reproduction? Finally Ive found something which helped me. It is WW II era and dual tang marked and etched. Step 2: Read the markings You could find either the USMC or USN MK2 marking on the knife. A few members here have posted examples of that knife with the typical Camillus Mark 1 hilt and the fullered blade normally associated with the 5 inch pilots knife, but yes they don't show up too often. 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